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Old 12-15-13, 07:02 PM
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Im not too concerned about gaining performance benefits from my wheel skewers.

if I was a P/1/2 climber type perhaps I would care
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I recently bought some weight weenie KCNC skewers.

But that was mostly because I wanted red skeweres, and I figured I'd give these a shot. The price was comparable to Salsa.
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Holding the wheel tightly enough so that it doesn't rub the brakes when sprinting or climbing is a performance benefit.
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Holding the wheel tightly enough so that it doesn't rub the brakes when sprinting or climbing is a performance benefit.
I run the brakes open quite a bit so they can't rub...
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I run the brakes open quite a bit so they can't rub...
You keep your rubbin' to yourself you fergin prevert.
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Handlebar question. Is there a bar with the following characteristics?

1) traditional bend like Ritchey WCS or 3T Rotundo
2) medium depth (135-ish)
3) flat or oval top
4) alloy
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Is there any manufacturer that makes pants that actually fit cyclists?
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Originally Posted by caloso
Handlebar question. Is there a bar with the following characteristics?

1) traditional bend like Ritchey WCS or 3T Rotundo
2) medium depth (135-ish)
3) flat or oval top
4) alloy
Pro Vibe 7S might be pretty close
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Is there any manufacturer that makes pants that actually fit cyclists?
Depends on the issue...
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Lucky works for me but in my bodybuilding days I stuck to sweat pants now that was a hard build to find... Poor Rkwaki I don't miss it
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Depends on the issue...
Thigh:waist ratio
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So I've decided to purchase some custom alloy wheels after my recent crash totaled my rear reynolds 46 clincher.

Can anyone here comment on all of the wide-rim fuss I've been hearing lately? Is it worth it? I intend to spend $7-800 on a set of some nice wheels that are durable, stiff and <or= 1500g.

I'm mildly intrigued by wide rims, but have received little to no personal testimonials. I may just default to some cheap Kinlin rims. For the record, I plan on using DT swiss hubs.
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I'm in the process of get a set of Velocity A23s laced onto a set of White Industry hubs. This was a two fold thing, number one was so I had a set of pit wheels with a rime width that better matched my Boyd carbon clinchers and number two was to have an 11 speed compatible hub for when the inevitable move to 11 speed occurs. What this has to do with you post I'm not sure, but I do find that my Boyds ride very nice. I'm not sure what kind of aero advantage I get, but I do know I can run a slightly lower pressure in these wheels which makes for a more comfy ride. Hopefully this ride quality is something I experience with the alloy wheels since these will become the training wheels.

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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Pro Vibe 7S might be pretty close
I love these bars! I was a fan of the Ergonova's but now I think the 7S is king!
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Originally Posted by TMonk
So I've decided to purchase some custom alloy wheels after my recent crash totaled my rear reynolds 46 clincher.

Can anyone here comment on all of the wide-rim fuss I've been hearing lately? Is it worth it? I intend to spend $7-800 on a set of some nice wheels that are durable, stiff and <or= 1500g.

I'm mildly intrigued by wide rims, but have received little to no personal testimonials. I may just default to some cheap Kinlin rims. For the record, I plan on using DT swiss hubs.
Wide rims with 25mm tires - IMHO the way all road cycling will be in the near future, because of better handling/cushioning/rolling resistance. So future-proof yourself now.

One PITA is switching wheels if you have some narrow & some wide...you'll have to adjust your brakes. Might be trivial, might be 10 minute job. Might be a problem in a race.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
So I've decided to purchase some custom alloy wheels after my recent crash totaled my rear reynolds 46 clincher.

Can anyone here comment on all of the wide-rim fuss I've been hearing lately? Is it worth it? I intend to spend $7-800 on a set of some nice wheels that are durable, stiff and <or= 1500g.

I'm mildly intrigued by wide rims, but have received little to no personal testimonials. I may just default to some cheap Kinlin rims. For the record, I plan on using DT swiss hubs.
bicycle hub store has a lot of great parts. They have a 28mm tall 23mm wide rim, which is what i'd buy if my pretty indestructible (fingers crossed) Kinlin XR300 rims go. About $15 more expensive than Kinlin, and given all the trouble i'm having with my brakes (19mm Kinlin and 25mm wide Stingers), i'd prefer to have them have more comparable width

So rims set you back $140, spokes $130 (if you go fancy and get CX-ray). A lot to play around with hubs. CK is nice but carries a pretty big premium. White Industry is more than solid and even better now that they have anodized color options available. Should come out to 1550g. Total should be $750 ish before the build, but builders can usually get significant discount on parts.
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pacenti sl23, wi hubs.
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Don't forget DT Swiss.
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Not to open this can of worms full bore (too late), but now I'm thinking of purchasing a new rear PT hub! I've been ballparking my training with heart rate for years and have always been intrigued by power.

I'd probably just ride with it for a year or so before implementing more structured training.

I'm gonna spend some time browsing for economical packages that include a wireless hub, head unit, software suite and all accompanying hardware.
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Originally Posted by rbart4506
I'm in the process of get a set of Velocity A23s laced onto a set of White Industry hubs.
Those are my everyday wheels, and a lot of guys around here ride them. The Pacenti SL23 and Hed Belgiums are very similar rims (the Heds are pricier and supposedly nicer fit & finish). Pretty much, you can't go wrong.

Regarding switching rim width, on most bikes you can use the brake release to adjust on the fly as long as you set the brakes up beforehand to account for it -- you have to leave the brake open somewhat if you start off on the wide rims. It's not how the brake release is supposed to be used, but it does work.
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So I've decided to purchase some custom alloy wheels after my recent crash totaled my rear reynolds 46 clincher.
Why not just rebuild it with either a 46 or 66 rim?
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Between the HED Ardennes and the Stingers it's a 5mm difference. It's 5 full turns of the barrel adjuster (no QR on Campy calipers).

Between 21mm rim and the Stingers it's 7mm, give or take. I had to re-anchor the brake cable.
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