mattm

No super busy!

I skipped around; watching 20 minutes of a cat 4 race straight through is way too much to ask..

Ygduf

I was worried!

wktmeow

Appreciate the feedback thanks I'll try to chop the video down a bit next time, just need to find and install some decent free editing sw

spectastic

VIRB Edit | Garmin | United States

spectastic

i have the same problem in a race.

burger0014

Here is the Rock Lititz Cat 5 crit. I'll post an edited version sometime this weekend. I think I rode a good race, but did way too much work and had nothing for the final sprint.

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canuckbelle

Ordered a GoPro yesterday. What are people's software recommendations for editing and overlaying my Garmin 510 data (including power)? VIRB seems to require some extra steps to get the GoPro video, right?

SpeshulEd 

The GoPro will come with it's own software that isn't too bad. I usually just use iMovie though. For overlaying data, try a program like Dashware.

Wylde06

I haven't used a gopro or the gopro software, but my virb is super easy to overlay the data..maybe see if the Virb Edit software will work with the gopro files

tetonrider

fixed that for you.

i tried watching athens twilight the other day. it was hard to watch anything other than the last few laps, and that was a relatively exciting domestic scene race. imagine watching a 1/2 field there....or a cat 3 or cat 5 field. pretty much no difference.

mattm

I get what you're saying - those live streams need GoPro feeds as well.. that would liven things up a bunch.

furiousferret

I think / hope that is the next evolution in racing. The ability to set up a few cameras along the course, while mixing in racers GoPro feeds. Having a video screen at the race and a streaming online feed would go a long way for the popularity of the sport. I'd watch some crappy Cat 4 race in Texas on a Sunday afternoon; there's nothing on TV worth watching.

SpeshulEd 

I believe GoPro just came out with a broadcasting device for their cameras. One can hope that these options will soon come to racing. Definitely will make things more interesting to watch.

shovelhd

I guess I must be a crit nerd or something. I really enjoy watching NCC and USA Crits P/1 races. So much going on.

shovelhd

Using jumbotrons at the corners really makes a difference. Adding live on bike footage into the mix, properly directed, would be a game changer. Expensive though.

tetonrider

the tech exists. does anyone remember, oh, about 5, 6 years ago when the TdF broadcast would occasional display live telemetry -- HR, power, etc? SRMs have a setting to broadcast that info to someone with the right receiver. the cynic in me thinks that was turned off (from broadcast) as it would become that much more clear as to when something funky was going on.

anyway....i always thought it would be cool to have a race where EVERY rider has one or two cameras (forward & backward), and then when you watch via the web you get to choose whose feed you want to watch. switch to contador for a climb or cavendish for a sprint (or his lead-out man's rear-facing camera).

would make things more exciting for the viewer.

i hear you, but my point remains the same. we are such a small minority. i know you are super crit focused so naturally gravitate toward that stuff--but the number of people who have any interest in the domestic scene racing is way, way smaller than the # who watch World Tour events (which is a small minority here in the US).

watching athens twilight, which is about as exciting a domestic crit as they come, was much more similar to watching the cat 4 crit than it was to watching any event on the World Tour.

one HAS to be a super nerd, i think, to watch a large clip of that at a time.

i'd say i'm pretty nerdy about it, and even i couldn't get beyond watching a few laps.

the jumbotrons and such make things much more spectator-friendly at the venue. at cascade, for example, i might sit in/near an exciting corner but then i have NO idea what is happening at the finish.

i suspect you watch that event and can visualize yourself racing those venues--or know what those speeds feel like in a close pack. when i take my family or a non-racing friend to see the crit at, say, cascade, the don't really know much of the tactics, but the POWER of the peloton and the air blast is what they comment on. hard to really convey that in a TV/web feed unless one has been there.

shovelhd

I find watching road races at any level boring until the end. I know it's just me.

tetonrider

i'd say for the most part i agree.

unless there is something interesting about the region, or unless something super strategic or tons of attacking is going on, it's often not terribly interesting just to watch without also doing something else....for most people.

i think many people like to watch stuff like the TdF as it is a bit of a travelogue.

SpeshulEd 

I usually listen to music when I watch racing, at least until about the last 20kms or so.

canuckbelle

GoPro acquired and installed! I'll test it out on an easy group ride tomorrow. First race vid Tuesday!

Doge

There was some discussion about team riding in the 2015 results thread. Here are <5 min of it at SoCal district championship today.
Team got 1,3,4. 2nd place was out of district (Mexico) so he "didn't count" for State jersey.
https://vimeo.com/126697639

tetonrider

most people with POV cams think "buy cam, attach to bike/helmet/chest/whatever, upload, win."

editing is HUGE. very difficult to do well as well as time-consuming.

canuckbelle

I agree, but my goal isn't to make entertaining videos, it's to use it as a training tool and to get feedback on my tactics/positioning. Making them enjoyable to watch is a distant 2nd.

spdntrxi

exactly.. I have all this nice software (well it's old now).. sony vegas pro etc etc... Well I'm no pro, so I stopped updating it because it's $$$.. iMovie and Garmin edit now.

shovelhd

I think you missed tetonrider's point. You can't expect people to slog through 45 minutes of unedited footage to give you feedback. A few times, maybe. Edit it down to under 5 minutes and that's a different ask.