Why aren't Cat 4 field limits smaller?
03-08-12, 12:06 PM
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Play on words. Joke. Don't make me start using emoticons.
Knock knock?
Who's there?
A head butting sprinter.
You must be from Jersey.
You're a RACE-ist.
03-08-12, 12:07 PM
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Lemme add some more dirty riding things:
Nose blower (snot on another rider on purpose, to get a reaction, and it worked, the guy with snot on him punched the snot blower and got DQed, CT):
Attack another rider with a 2x4 (not in NY area, I think midwest somewhere?)
Water bottle thrower (Bethel)
Drive car into the registration tent (Bethel again, that's CT madness for you)
F-bombs while circling on start/finish line with no helmet on (more CT madness)
Cut across the width of Limerock Raceway in the last 100m of a sprint (about 30-40 feet, CT)
Chop wheel so hard after coming off a leadout that the leadout crashes, stopping whole field at last turn (except leadout's sprinter who was clear, CT)
Various cheats (pin in tire) to get free lap (CT, NY)
Blatant free lap cheat (pit official pumped up tire after rider got a free lap - tire was fine, NJ)
Peeing at the start line (Bethel) while lined up for the start
Granted, other than Joe Papp, I think most of the dopers in the area were minorities.
Nose blower (snot on another rider on purpose, to get a reaction, and it worked, the guy with snot on him punched the snot blower and got DQed, CT):
Attack another rider with a 2x4 (not in NY area, I think midwest somewhere?)
Water bottle thrower (Bethel)
Drive car into the registration tent (Bethel again, that's CT madness for you)
F-bombs while circling on start/finish line with no helmet on (more CT madness)
Cut across the width of Limerock Raceway in the last 100m of a sprint (about 30-40 feet, CT)
Chop wheel so hard after coming off a leadout that the leadout crashes, stopping whole field at last turn (except leadout's sprinter who was clear, CT)
Various cheats (pin in tire) to get free lap (CT, NY)
Blatant free lap cheat (pit official pumped up tire after rider got a free lap - tire was fine, NJ)
Peeing at the start line (Bethel) while lined up for the start
Granted, other than Joe Papp, I think most of the dopers in the area were minorities.
03-08-12, 12:12 PM
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Calm down all you scrawny fuggers, don't make rkwaki have to referee
Ex this is for you:
Ex this is for you:
03-08-12, 12:13 PM
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03-08-12, 12:19 PM
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The Cat 4/5 field was a combined field with 1 payout. almost 90 riders when it started. 78 total published finishers. The results are split at the end between 4/5 for the FPS points to be awarded. It was Topview sports who ran this one. Even with the field so big It wasn't all that bad if you stay near the front. Although i did see one guy that was pulling just ride right off the road into a ditch and flip over. Think he must have got dehydrated and blacked out. i don't mind the fields like that but you got 65 out of 80 riders trying to hide and hang on to every wheel they can and never going to the front. Eventually they are so fatigued and struggling that they can barely think straight and end up crashing everyone out.
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03-08-12, 12:24 PM
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In a tight downtown barrier lined crit (Wilmington) I did the move to the right when a guy who sucked wheel the whole race decided with two to go he was gonna move up on the right and announce it. I didn't see exactly what happened but from the sound of it he found the barrier.
03-08-12, 12:26 PM
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whoever led out the sprint in the p123 sunday did pretty much that. sat up split everyone coming up. I got pinched into the curb and I heard a crash behind me.
03-08-12, 12:29 PM
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03-08-12, 12:32 PM
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Yeah, right. Maybe in another 5 years. I'm scared of the 45+.
Or maybe I should do 45+ and 3-4. Maybe I'll finally reverse the order, 3-4, then 45+.
The second race I ever watched, and the first where I participated, I watched a Cat 1 launch a ferocious attack up the right curb. He was sprinting, looking back (my mentor told me to do this too, since in a crit if you're off the front your only threats are from behind).
He hit the curb at about 35-38 mph, started cartwheeling, seemed like forever.
Since then I don't attack looking back.
The first crash was a break guy who was so tired he touched wheels and fell over. The sprint crash, no idea what happened. In the 3-4s it was a bit tight but okay. A couple guys shot backward through the field.
btw your teammate and good kid all around J P Jr needs to throw his bike at the line. He had 4th in the bag by a good 18 inches but Ian threw his bike so far I didn't think he could stay on the bike. Beat J P Jr by about the height of a 50mm rim.
Or maybe I should do 45+ and 3-4. Maybe I'll finally reverse the order, 3-4, then 45+.
In a tight downtown barrier lined crit (Wilmington) I did the move to the right when a guy who sucked wheel the whole race decided with two to go he was gonna move up on the right and announce it. I didn't see exactly what happened but from the sound of it he found the barrier.
He hit the curb at about 35-38 mph, started cartwheeling, seemed like forever.
Since then I don't attack looking back.
btw your teammate and good kid all around J P Jr needs to throw his bike at the line. He had 4th in the bag by a good 18 inches but Ian threw his bike so far I didn't think he could stay on the bike. Beat J P Jr by about the height of a 50mm rim.
03-08-12, 12:35 PM
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Jeez, you get 30 or 40 complaints about a 5 gallon bucket not being a Porta Potty, and an email that you scored the winner of a race as finishing 3 laps down and someone gets all sensitive.
Alright...dammit...
03-08-12, 12:36 PM
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Yeah, right. Maybe in another 5 years. I'm scared of the 45+.
Or maybe I should do 45+ and 3-4. Maybe I'll finally reverse the order, 3-4, then 45+.
The second race I ever watched, and the first where I participated, I watched a Cat 1 launch a ferocious attack up the right curb. He was sprinting, looking back (my mentor told me to do this too, since in a crit if you're off the front your only threats are from behind).
He hit the curb at about 35-38 mph, started cartwheeling, seemed like forever.
Since then I don't attack looking back.
The first crash was a break guy who was so tired he touched wheels and fell over. The sprint crash, no idea what happened. In the 3-4s it was a bit tight but okay. A couple guys shot backward through the field.
btw your teammate and good kid all around J P Jr needs to throw his bike at the line. He had 4th in the bag by a good 18 inches but Ian threw his bike so far I didn't think he could stay on the bike. Beat J P Jr by about the height of a 50mm rim.
Or maybe I should do 45+ and 3-4. Maybe I'll finally reverse the order, 3-4, then 45+.
The second race I ever watched, and the first where I participated, I watched a Cat 1 launch a ferocious attack up the right curb. He was sprinting, looking back (my mentor told me to do this too, since in a crit if you're off the front your only threats are from behind).
He hit the curb at about 35-38 mph, started cartwheeling, seemed like forever.
Since then I don't attack looking back.
The first crash was a break guy who was so tired he touched wheels and fell over. The sprint crash, no idea what happened. In the 3-4s it was a bit tight but okay. A couple guys shot backward through the field.
btw your teammate and good kid all around J P Jr needs to throw his bike at the line. He had 4th in the bag by a good 18 inches but Ian threw his bike so far I didn't think he could stay on the bike. Beat J P Jr by about the height of a 50mm rim.
that crash in the sprint cost me at least five places. shrug. I was a bit disappointed because I didn't really expect to be in the hunt for anything at that point. With 15 to go I was on vapor and considered going home since my lovely wife looked pretty damn cold sitting there.
The kid will learn. he's going to be good.
03-08-12, 12:42 PM
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I was going to end that with "now throw the roach out the window", but CDR would probably flip out and claim I was saying he smoked pot.
Jeez, you get 30 or 40 complaints about a 5 gallon bucket not being a Porta Potty, and an email that you scored the winner of a race as finishing 3 laps down and someone gets all sensitive.
Alright...dammit...
Jeez, you get 30 or 40 complaints about a 5 gallon bucket not being a Porta Potty, and an email that you scored the winner of a race as finishing 3 laps down and someone gets all sensitive.
Alright...dammit...
03-08-12, 02:05 PM
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It was two guys, and they were going backward through the field really fast on the RHS. I saw them with plenty of time, and squeezed right. Unfortunately, three guys in front of me tried to get through enough space for two and the guy in front of me did a stoppie. I had two choices, hit the brakes or swerve into the middle of the charging field. I chose the latter.
03-08-12, 02:30 PM
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It was two guys, and they were going backward through the field really fast on the RHS. I saw them with plenty of time, and squeezed right. Unfortunately, three guys in front of me tried to get through enough space for two and the guy in front of me did a stoppie. I had two choices, hit the brakes or swerve into the middle of the charging field. I chose the latter.
03-08-12, 02:38 PM
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03-08-12, 02:49 PM
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So in the above leadout situation what's the best thing the two gassed guys could have done?
I ask because I care.
And I don't currently have a sprint but I can get a good head of steam going to string it out a bit for my guys.
I ask because I care.
And I don't currently have a sprint but I can get a good head of steam going to string it out a bit for my guys.