you should not have to remove the crank. not sure what bike you are speaking of, but the bottom bracket shell is a part that is molded in, so the cables would go up and around as you insert them. well, depending on the bike they can also get hung up, too.

best bet is to attach a guide wire as you are pulling the old housing--makes things far simpler.

as for removing PF cups, be aware that they are generally NOT designed to be removed and reused. i certainly have done this (and am very careful and experienced with it), but some PF cups are destroyed in the process. so, don't remove PF cups for the hell of it--especially if you do not have replacements on hand.

there are expensive tools to remove cups and cheap/free ones. you can decide where you are comfortable. don't forget you'll likely need to press new cups into the frame, and press bearings into those cups.

can't speak for cervelo, but some frameset + brake combinations are more sensitive. usually this is only a problem if one is trying to go with the minimum amount of cable.

i suggest using your old housing as a guide for cutting the new one (if you were happy with it)...or starting a bit long and only cutting off a bit at a time.

yokozuna brake cable is awesome but due to it's reduced flexibility it can require a different length of cable.

nokons are neat because you can screw up and just add back a link (of course, it's possible to cut the liner too short).

what brakes are you using? some cause the cable to move more than others. i find eebrakes to be more sensitive to cable length due to the way cable moves laterally across the frame. (they are amazing brakes). DA brakes are less sensitive as the movement is more parallel to the plane created by the TT/DT/ST, so the cable moves without hitting the frame, even if it is short.

lol that cat is not amused

<3 i love you too

It's a Scott Foil 40. It is relatively light (1000g ish), has relatively aggressive position (12cm HT), and is relatively affordable (probably 1400 all said and done), but the major PITA are the internal routing, the seatpost (i have to find a set-back post), and that i need to figure out how to glue a magnet for the SRM...

good to know i won't need to take out the PF bearings when changing cables as i really don't want to do it. Now i just need to make sure i know how to remove the cranks so i can install my srm cranks on there...

"figure out how to glue a magnet for the SRM"?

super trivial. i recommend buying a rare earth magnet and attaching it via hot glue or -- if you have it -- the quarq 2-part epoxy. either one works great, is easy, and can be removed with a short, sharp blow with a screwdriver, without affecting the frame.

i like a 1/2"x1/8" magnet for my power meters. i usually mount it to the chainstay. with a rare earth magnet like that you should not have any placement issues -- it's strong enough to trip the meter from nearly any position.

use either of these methods on a clean frame, and it will only come off when you want it to.

no fuss, no muss.

Thank you proxies. Back to Bikeforums at work!

Apparently it doesn't hold format's in a proxy unless I "go advance" post. Will someone delete my unformatted duplicate in the race results thread? I don't feel like posting a third time in that thread to get someone to remove it haha.

Back has deteriorated to the point that I don't know if I'll be able to race/ride in 2+ weeks.

Suck!

This is the time of year when all the nagging aches and pains return. I've found that once I start racing and building race fitness significantly that they all go away. Back problems do suck, though, especially if they're spasms and can only be healed with rest. Good luck.

**** NO - you mean you weren't here???

Hammy the way you are holding that ***** cat is somewhat disturbing...

This is a job for.....

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I made the mistake of sitting and then trying to get up, in front of the Missus. It took me a good 15-20 seconds to get up and I only manage because I was holding onto the crib and the changing table dresser. Doc appointment tomorrow after she witnessed that. I think rest is the key though.

I realize now that when I scaled by my training in late 2010 I basically stopped doing abdominal stuff aka core. Every time I neglect core stuff this happens.

Racing in smallish master's fields... all the teams around here like to play "you first, I'll just sit here and let you close that gap" even to the point of getting on a teammie's wheel then sitting up and making a gap where no attack was going.

It's one thing to not chase your own team's attacks. Or even to sit on the front when a teamie goes and just tempo along to let the gap open.

But when the group is just rolling along, to sit in the middle of the string and intentionally let gaps open. Is it "just tactics" or is it "scumbag racing"?

Tactics. Deal with it.

Agreed.
As commented in another thread my young teammate was in a break with a guy this weekend (very strong field) and the guy (a sprinter) just sat in and did nothing not pulling through a single time. It frustrated him and I told him the same thing. He commented that he wished I was there with him so he could have learned how to handle something like that. :)

Sometimes it's just weakness.

You guys are scumbags.

/ kidding. Partially.

Yes it's frustrating to be on the receiving end. And honestly it's not much fun to be the "giver" of tactics like that. I'd rather attack and race hard. No it's not naive, I just think it's more fun.

OTOH, watching the P12 race yesterday, I watched a couple of riders bicker themselves right out the back of the break, never to catch back on. So, careful with the counter-tactics.

maybe edit just to remove all the text from that first post?

nice work this past weekend/results. i read your unformatted post before realizing there was a 2nd formatted version. d'oh! good read, though.

Ugh, first race paced training in a long time and I am having issues with my contacts popping out. May have to go to prescription sunglasses.

Were you down with the boys near Pulltight this weekend?

yes, it was alot of fun. A good group from Iowa came down as well.