lenA

separate but equal

furiousferret

For the last few weeks we've had more junk in the house, and in the past I've been able to avoid it. Having 4 bags of treats left over from Halloween didn't help For me, I know when I start eating sugary products like ice cream and candy, cravings start. Stay away from them a few days and the urges go away. I doubt it has anything to do with a protein deficit; sugar has an addictive quality to it. I've been eating between 80-120 grams of protein a day (which probably could go up) and eating much more on my big training days. My snacking is more poor discipline than anything.

Regardless I think you guys are right to the extent I have to up my protein even more. The sugar I just need to htfu and stop eating.

The lowest weight I have been the last few years is 163, and I still had some weight to lose in the gut. 155 should get rid of that gut, however at some point there will be a point were losing weight is a detriment, and I do not know if that is 145. Since I haven't been in that zone for a long time, its going to be a trial and error exercise. I really couldn't tell you if its a recipe for disaster or not.

misterwaterfall

I mix it up here and there with Tofu. You have to be careful as a lot of the recipes you find will either be friend or have really heavy sauces. I usually buy the extra firm organic, and marinate it after cutting it up into little cubes. Toss than into a stir fry and you're good to go

rkwaki

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Fat Boy

Here's another thing to keep in mind. If you really want to lean out, make sure you are definitely getting your sleep. If you're running short on sleep, it will hurt you as far as leaning out.

misterwaterfall

I was expecting more when I wrote that

Fat Boy

I tend to avoid soy products. If you get legit fermented soy, you're probably OK, but there are things in non-fermented soy that may increase estrogen. If I'm trying to get a dense protein source, it will have (hopefully) run around a field at some point.

rkwaki

Sometimes we all disappoint....

beatlebee 

Why is this? I know that I tend to want to eat a lot when short on sleep but it seems that my body wants more calories than just those that were burnt in the time that I would I have been asleep. So what deeper mechanism/hormone is at work?

bmontgomery87

Also soy has anti-nutritive properties and can block absorption of protein.
Soy is pretty much a garbage form of "food". The majority of soy in the states is GMO as well.

I like meat.

bmontgomery87

HGH is released while you sleep, which is said to help with leanness.
I think you can definitely get into the area of nit picking and spending too much time over-thinking things, but sleep is very important.

Fat Boy

There are a bunch of mechanisms at work, but among other things, a lack of sleep will drive cortisol up and testosterone down. As far as wanting more calories, that's at least partially a component of the cortisol release which is tied to insulin and leptin sensitivity (both of which take a hit).

rkwaki

I read somewhere that for every hour a WorldTour rider races they try to sleep 2

Fat Boy

Kinda like when you and Hammy/WR have sexy-time?

ijgoodwin

He'd only have to sleep 10 minutes to make up for that...

kensuf

No ****.

Lack of sleep puts weight on my waist.

Fat Boy

I bought 1/2 a grass-fed cow on Sunday. It's in the freezer. We have beef-o-plenty!

rkwaki

Ouch....

10 minutes HA! - you guys are too generous...

Two pump chumps only need 1 minute...
I'm a sprinter baby....

rkwaki

So for breakfast number 2 I had:
5 eggs, 10 egg whites, 2 biscuits and gravy, three slices of bacon.

Does that fit into FatBoy's diet?

Fat Boy

If you ditch the biscuits and the gravy is made without flour, no problem. I had a 4-egg omelet with serrano's, onions, spinach, liverwurst and fresh hot salsa. A little different, but certainly from the same playbook! I've started to stick the liverwurst in things like this every once in a while to get more organ meat goodness. There's a lot of nutritional elements you get from liver and heart that you just don't get from muscle meats.

I've got the 1/2 head from the cow I bought thawing. I'm going to stick it on the grill later and tonight is going to be barbacoa tacos. The kids don't need to know exactly what part of the cow it all came from. All they need to know is that it's going to be good. That's kind of an awkward thing to have in the freezer and it's not vacuum packed like the rest of it, so it goes first. I don't know why, but I get a real kick out of gnarly looking food.

lenA

+1 on ditching the biscuits and flour and eating the rest

rkwaki

Just for that statement I went and ate two donuts...

lenA

please, keep it clean

Fat Boy

kensuf

I look like the bald guy right now. Stupid cortisol, stress, and other hormonal issues this past summer and fall.