globecanvas

Everybody is different. The only way I have ever been able to lose weight is to taper off eating in the evening. I try to a very light early dinner, then nothing after 5:30pm. I am hungry in the morning, but I don't feel hungry in the night.

mike868y

if you guys are going to be chugging protein shakes like kwaki you owe it to yourself to get something unflavored/sweetened. 0 calorie sweetners (like the one used in optimum whey) are not "free passes" and research is showing more and more they can have a very significant impact on your gut biome which affects everything in your body.

workout schedule also affects this. i used to ALWAYS go to bed hungry, but that was when i was in college and had time to eat a big breakfast before riding in the middle of the day. these days my rides are early in the morning so going to bed hungry results in waking up super hungry and feeling very empty on my rides.

TheKillerPenguin

@GeoNLR - your weight loss absurdly metal. Have an air guitar solo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ4z0GR4Vu8

My diet is fairly similar to yours except swap the oatmeal for granola and the quinoa for brown rice. For protein i usually eat chicken breast, or mix ground turkey with vegetables and make burritos, or just eat a few eggs. I typically aim for 2g/kg of protein a day, I just seem to feel better above that point. I also cut out all junk food...i do miss beer and donuts, but I feel tons healthier, have more energy in general, my on the bike power is up, and my weight is down ~11lbs in the past 6 months.

Beginning July: 168
Late August: 164
Yesterday: 157 (fully hydrated)

...I'm 6'2''

jsutkeepspining

^beer and whiskey have become my primary source of calories, however, i'm riding so much it's not really an issue, and i weighed in at 160 yesterday after a huge night of eating. I have however started eating rice as my main meal for lunch and dinner 5 times a week because it's cold enough that i don't want to take the 10 minute walk to the cafeteria.

TallTravel

Mike,

" gut biome ?

Yeah, I'm ignorant.

Ygduf

google it.

tl:dr - the bacteria in your gut adjust (flourish differently) based on what you eat, and then the chemicals the bacteria release have been shown to impact the food you crave. e.g. eat tons of simple carbs, get a gut full of bacteria that love simple carbs, those bacteria influence you to feed them more simple carbs.

misterwaterfall

All of that stuff in your stomach that Erin Andrews says eating yogurt helps. Never mind the yogurt I'll take some Erin Andrews.

mike868y

basically this. it's an incredibly interesting topic. there are far more bacteria cells in/on your body than human cells.

valygrl

I have to lose the 3 pounds I gained since the end of race season, and maybe take a few more off too. I started "Lose It" on monday. hate counting calories.

For you guys who gain/lose many many pounds- respect. I don't know how you can keep up the calorie restrictions for an extended time. It's so hard!

Ygduf

when you kind of zoom back out, it makes a lot of sense evolutionary. The bacteria that coincidentally stimulated the host to eat the nutrients which suited the bacteria best thrived a little better. Repeat over and over and over... Same old story, unless I'm missing something.

Anyway, when that first sort of surfaced, I was like "**** it, I'm off sugar entirely". It was a struggle for a bit, but then it got easier. Either the habit became rooted or my buddies in my gut adjusted or both.

Sort of adds weight to "give changes 6 weeks to take hold," as well.

ghause

May I throw a question/situation out?
I'm hitting the trainer first thing in the morning, 30-45 min.
The theory is that working out before eating encourages fat burning right?
I'm not a fan of eating soon after waking and don't usually eat for another 2-2.5 hours.
Would I be best off eating protein right after the workout to encourage recovery and stop the fat burn, or continue the fast and eat later?
(I'm at ~183 and looking to get down to 165-170 over the winter)

Thanks.
Please forgive if I'm posting redundantly.

mike868y

^i'm not expert, but for me it would depend on what that 30-45 minute workout consists of. if it's just a steady state spin, I'd probably wait and eat when hungry. if it's a high intensity effort with vo2 or shorter efforts, I'd probably have a snack (protein powder and an apple or banana) then eat a full meal when I'm hungry.

Ygduf

I would eat a little something right after. For that duration of workout you can probably live without, but to get the most from your work (and likely help your metabolism too) eat right after. Even if it's a couple-hundred kcal.

Postexercise nutrient intake timing in humans is critical to recove... - PubMed - NCBI

Enthalpic

The fasted exercise effect is mostly controlled by carbohydrate intake. An unsweetened whey shake or similar won't fully break your fast.

furiousferret

Since last week I've been downing 3000-4000 Calories a day to get rid of this flu. Unfortunately I've used it as an excuse to eat a ton of junk. I'm going to have to detox off sugars again.

Luckily I have not gained much weight from the ordeal.

rkwaki

Yup.
But not 100% convinced on fasting cardio either.

Ygduf

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shovelhd

Gotta keep tabs on your competition.

gsteinb

early morning workout I can go full bore for 90 minutes without eating. longer than that and i make sure to eat breakfast first.

tetonrider

altogether, or just when off the bike?

how strict are you?

Ygduf

I eat some carbs throughout the day, but nothing with added sugar. On the bike, I eat sugar in gels/shot bloks/etc, and I allow myself some immediately post-rides, but that's only on weekends. Looking at MFP I have been 30-40g/sugar per day, but that's with apples and the 10g/sugars in my bag of roasted brussels sprouts.

This is all a long way of saying that I go out of my way to avoid most of them, most of the time, but I don't pick the corn out of a southwest salad or anything. It's the no-sugar equivalent of how I train.

Wylde06

Weighed in at 213.1 this morning. At one point between the time I posted ^^^this and today, I somehow let myself get back up to 220. Finally back to eating better and im trying to get more protein in, especially on days im on the bike.

Scotia_Cyclist

ha supplements do you guys take ? and at what phases of training?

I flipped through the tread bu admittedly did not ready all 55 pages saw whey, flax,glutamine

gsteinb

gsteinb

oh and this happened

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...=pl-share&_r=0