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Andy STi 10-28-16 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by tetonrider (Post 19149414)
i never mentioned another brand. it's a fine line between me expressing thoughts and experience vs being thought of as supporting only one brand. when purchasing questions come up, i'm very careful to express the fact that every product has pros and cons.

for reference, i actually sell/have sold/install/service 5 or 6 different types of meters on a regular basis. i can't separate the fact that i have an opinion (both from personal use and from a service perspective), but i think there is a misperception that my opinion is informed by what i sell (and a misperception that i sell/work with 1 type of meter) and not the other way around. the very reason i sell something -- anything -- is because of what i know the capabilities to be. i'm also lucky to not need to feed my family based on what i sell; it's mainly helping people, especially racers and friends, access a product they otherwise couldn't.

i've also been a product tester in the industry.

Thought I've heard you wont be friends with people who use other power meters. At least that's the rumor going around. Is that not true?

tetonrider 10-28-16 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Andy STi (Post 19154401)
Thought I've heard you wont be friends with people who use other power meters. At least that's the rumor going around. Is that not true?

a guy with as few friends as i have can't afford to be picky.

do imaginary friends count?

hack 10-28-16 02:39 PM

FWIW ... I just assumed you were solely affiliated with SRM.

tetonrider 10-30-16 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by hack (Post 19154417)
FWIW ... I just assumed you were solely affiliated with SRM.

i'm sorry for that. i've mentioned my history numerous times, but there's only so often i can repeat it. it tends to be a small group who actively participate around here.

the way i got involved with SRM in the first place was from my experience with other brands, which inspired me to pay full retail for my first SRM due to major frustration in what i was seeing when i was able to get in close to other products. if you knew me, you'd know that paying full retail is something that pains me greatly, so i was really desperate! :)

things got pretty ugly when i looked behind the curtains in terms of data quality, reliability, and ability to know (from an engineering perspective) how to fix those issues. the last one was the biggest deal for me, and really the final straw.

my start with power meters is that i could not afford an SRM when i started out, so i had to find another option. i convinced myself that everything was fine, but my curiosity got the better of me.

anyway, i was an SRM customer first, and the more i learned the more i was able to confidently recommended them to others. i eventually got to a point where i could help narrow the gap in price for many people, so they wouldn't have to face the same decision i had and also save them from (potentially) collecting a great amount of data only to have it be revealed as problematic years down the road.

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tl;dr -- i'm a terrible spokesperson except for when i *really* believe in something, and over the years i've been able to help many people get the system they really wanted but didn't think they could afford. i'm also able to rest comfortably knowing what they've bought into as they are a company where there is much MORE than meets the eye, in an industry where most others have much LESS going on.

hack 10-30-16 01:40 PM

FWIW ... I should have added that even if you were solely affiliated with SRM, it wouldn't matter much to me ;)

Andy STi 10-31-16 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by tetonrider (Post 19157569)

anyway, i was an SRM customer first, and the more i learned the more i was able to confidently recommended them to others.

This is like a Hair Club for Men ad....Hold on, what is your hair status?

tetonrider 10-31-16 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Andy STi (Post 19160055)
This is like a Hair Club for Men ad....Hold on, what is your hair status?

i'm not only the president...

hair status = ... can we include entire body?

Doge 11-02-16 01:21 PM

Cross Top Bar brakes.
Will these levers work at the end of the cable as the only lever vs in the middle/as an alternative lever?

Can the cable exit one end of the other?

I'm doing a little project where these will be inside the bend of the bars. Easy braking from hands near where they would be on hoods - but no hoods.

dz_nuzz 11-03-16 04:47 AM

[MENTION=364302]Doge[/MENTION] Yes they will. I believe some even come with a rubber grommet specifically designed to accommodate this.

grolby 11-03-16 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 19164722)
Cross Top Bar brakes.
Will these levers work at the end of the cable as the only lever vs in the middle/as an alternative lever?

Can the cable exit one end of the other?

I'm doing a little project where these will be inside the bend of the bars. Easy braking from hands near where they would be on hoods - but no hoods.

Yep. Cross top levers have been immensely popular as the only brake lever available on lots of fashion-first drop bar singlespeed bikes. Lots of these bikes have the bars set much too low for the most of the kids who ride them to use the drops or even hoods. So voila.

Doge 11-03-16 09:45 AM

So what it is for...
Collegiate TTs are kinda like the Junior selection TTs - but different. They (collegiate) have rules, junior selection TTs have letters written by directors subject to lots of interpretation. Still I emailed USAC on the collegiate rules and received confirmation that any USAC mass start legal bike is allowed for collegiate TTs - except wheels must have 16 spokes. Basically a TT bike with road bars is fine (which was NOT fine for the USAC junior directors)
With that - I don't see the need for brakes with hoods in a TT. The whole thing will be in that IAB (I don't know what those letters stand for) . So I thought I'd get the cross brakes and hide them behind the bend in the bars giving them a wee bit or aero (maybe) benefit. I'd still like the levers pointing back. Then I can route those cables forward into the bars. Right now that TT bike has a Magura hydraulic brakes on front (might move to TriRig), so if anyone knows of an aero low bulk hydraulic Cross Top Lever, I'd like a suggestion.

echappist 11-03-16 10:37 AM

Rear facing mounts on aero-ish bikes
 
Neither my road bike (Scott Foil) nor my TT bike (Scott Plasma) has any sort of round tubing, and i'd like to know what other mounting options are there, in particular ones that would play nice with a saddle bag.

The Foil also has the issue that there's no place to attach on the saddle rails as the clamp takes up the rear portion of the rails.

Has anyone found satisfactory seatpost mount that could accomodate foil-shaped seatposts?

Many thanks in advance

topflightpro 11-03-16 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 19166504)
So what it is for...
Collegiate TTs are kinda like the Junior selection TTs - but different. They (collegiate) have rules, junior selection TTs have letters written by directors subject to lots of interpretation. Still I emailed USAC on the collegiate rules and received confirmation that any USAC mass start legal bike is allowed for collegiate TTs - except wheels must have 16 spokes. Basically a TT bike with road bars is fine (which was NOT fine for the USAC junior directors)
With that - I don't see the need for brakes with hoods in a TT. The whole thing will be in that IAB (I don't know what those letters stand for) . So I thought I'd get the cross brakes and hide them behind the bend in the bars giving them a wee bit or aero (maybe) benefit. I'd still like the levers pointing back. Then I can route those cables forward into the bars. Right now that TT bike has a Magura hydraulic brakes on front (might move to TriRig), so if anyone knows of an aero low bulk hydraulic Cross Top Lever, I'd like a suggestion.

What will Daniel be using to shift gears? Bar end shifters on the round bars?

hack 11-03-16 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 19166504)
... The whole thing will be in that IAB (I don't know what those letters stand for) ...

invisible aero bars

Doge 11-03-16 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 19166647)
What will Daniel be using to shift gears? Bar end shifters on the round bars?

No FD on that TT bike. Using the bar top hill shifter. Might be shift-able from IAB position. Might also cut bar ends a lot and use TT bar end shifters. If a course is technical, things may change. I hope to see a course description. He has the Venge as a backup. Part of me thinks this may be outside the spirit of the competition, but I want to see what is normal. Under USAC lots of stuff is allowed and not used.

Ygduf 11-03-16 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by hack (Post 19166655)
invisible aero bars

improvised aero bars.

Ygduf 11-03-16 12:18 PM

Zipp - Speed Weaponry | Wheels | 454 NSW Carbon Clincher?

http://zipp.com/_modules/Product/Ima...4-nsw-main.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/toirkTe.gif

TheKillerPenguin 11-03-16 12:29 PM

Inspired by fish. Aero Balance™. :rolleyes:

Ygduf 11-03-16 12:32 PM

the # of manufactured buzzwords in that copy is amazing.

hack 11-03-16 01:04 PM

All this time I've been cruising around on wheels without HexFin ABLC dimples like a sucker.

PepeM 11-03-16 01:45 PM

Wow, so much BS in there. :D

mattm 11-03-16 02:36 PM

I'd buy 'em!

Doge 11-03-16 03:18 PM

They go counter clockwise?

Ygduf 11-03-16 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by mattm (Post 19167246)
I'd buy 'em!

you won't even pay out for an aero handlebar, but $4000 wheels? :P

Hermes 11-03-16 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ygduf (Post 19166914)
the # of manufactured buzzwords in that copy is amazing.

What sold me was the hump back whale reference. Dimples are so been there done that.


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