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globecanvas 07-29-15 05:50 PM

What's more $? The 1-by chainring is $40 ish. Take off the FD (and sell it heh) and you're good to go.

Just my 2c. I have 1-by on my cross bike and my winter bike and I think it's great.

Doge 07-29-15 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by hack (Post 18025912)
Ha ... I might jump into a local race here and there. If anything, it will give me an option to commute on trail as opposed to path or an alternate option for winter riding once this el nino rolls in.

By 180s you mean crank arm length? For the crank (and groupset), there is no money spent, just have an extra group sitting about.

Yes. crank length. I may need to recuse myself as unlike most of my posts, I don't know much here. :lol:

Just seem torque is much more important than spin.

hack 07-29-15 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 18025946)
Yes. crank length. I may need to recuse myself as unlike most of my posts, I don't know much here. :lol:

Just seem torque is much more important than spin.

gotcha ... i'll stick with the 175 for now, since it is what i have sitting around.

Andy STi 07-29-15 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by globecanvas (Post 18025943)
What's more $? The 1-by chainring is $40 ish. Take off the FD (and sell it heh) and you're good to go.

Just my 2c. I have 1-by on my cross bike and my winter bike and I think it's great.

Without a chainguide you need a clutched RD. Chainguide or new RD = $

globecanvas 07-29-15 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Andy STi (Post 18026435)
Without a chainguide you need a clutched RD. Chainguide or new RD = $

True for downhill gnar or bouncing your bike over barriers. For trail commuting and winter riding a regular road RD works fine. My winter bike has a narrow-wide chainring, Rival road RD and a cheapie bash guard but no inner catcher and I don't think it's ever dropped the chain. Narrow-wide chainrings are cool. In combination with a clutch RD you can drop the bike off the roof and the chain will stay on.

I'm a 1-by proselytizer, I know...

tetonrider 07-29-15 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by globecanvas (Post 18026460)
Narrow-wide chainrings are cool. In combination with a clutch RD you can drop the bike off the roof and the chain will stay on.

except when there is mud.

(and i'm a 1x guy)

Andy STi 07-29-15 11:09 PM

I love my XX-1 but I've been happy with a double on my cross bike

shovelhd 07-29-15 11:21 PM

Luddite. Does it have downtube shifters?

revchuck 07-30-15 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by shovelhd (Post 18026695)
Luddite. Does it have downtube shifters?

You say that like it's a bad thing...

grolby 07-30-15 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by globecanvas (Post 18025915)
46/38 would be a somewhat typical cross setup on 130 bcd. 46/36 is more common but you can't do that. Personally I'd recommend putting a 42 or 40T race face narrow-wide chainring on there and going 1-by.

46x38 on 130 BCD cranks is what I use. I recommend a 12-30 cassette for that setup, if you can find one. You can still make a short cage dérailleur work with a 30T. 32 is dodgy.


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 18025946)
Yes. crank length. I may need to recuse myself as unlike most of my posts, I don't know much here. :lol:

Just seem torque is much more important than spin.


Originally Posted by hack (Post 18025975)
gotcha ... i'll stick with the 175 for now, since it is what i have sitting around.

I've never bought this idea that you should ride longer cranks off-road. I think keeping a consistent fit and matching crank length to your needs is more important. Another 5mm doesn't give you much more torque. You can gear down for a much larger increase in torque than what you'll get from longer cranks.

shovelhd 07-30-15 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by revchuck (Post 18026898)
You say that like it's a bad thing...

It's an Eroica thing.

echappist 07-30-15 09:58 AM

I need some suggestions on shoes. I've been wearing DMT size 43 (Radial and the old Prisma) for the last 4 years, and both have fit me like a glove.

The Prisma has a proprietary rachet system that requires an annual replacement, and there's a limited supply of these rachets. The Radial is great for most things except the forefoot stub makes it difficult to clip in (sucks majorly for crits). There's also the issue of significant outsole wear as there is a lot of carbon fiber showing at the heel.

Unfortunately, the DMT Vega in size 43 is exceedingly hard to find, and while i can probably get the DMT hydra (one Boa instead of two), i'd prefer something slightly nicer (read, two Boa dials). The Diadora Vortex Pro shoes i just bought seems a bit short vertically in the toe box, though width-wise it seems okay. Anyone else has suggestions on what else i could try? Any takes on Gaerne, Garneaus, etc?

mike868y 07-30-15 09:59 AM

love my sworks shoes.

topflightpro 07-30-15 11:20 AM

I have a 1x set up with a regular Rival RD, but I have a guard and K-Edge chain keeper.

My wife runs a 46-38 setup, but she thinks she wants to go to a 1x setup because she never changes gears up front.

Wesley36 07-30-15 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by mike868y (Post 18027800)
love my sworks shoes.

+1

caloso 07-30-15 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by mike868y (Post 18027800)
love my sworks shoes.

Me too.

burger0014 07-30-15 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 18028409)
Me too.

I actually don't like mine. They seemed narrow so I bought half a size larger. Now that they are somewhat broken in I feel like my feet are swimming in them. Size 10 / 43 in everything... 43.5 in Sworks... and they aren't white so maybe that's why I hate them.

echappist 07-30-15 04:03 PM

thanks for the suggestion; too bad S-works shoes never go on sale; oh well...

shovelhd 07-30-15 04:09 PM

Do your Brooks Brothers suits go on sale?

Sworks shoes do go on sale at the end of the season but sizes and colors are limited. Keep in mind that Sworks have a lifetime guarantee.

You should probably describe your shoe size before asking for recommendations.

globecanvas 07-30-15 04:12 PM

Recommending shoes is like recommending girlfriends/boyfriends. Somebody's perfect match might be somebody else's worst nightmare.

shovelhd 07-30-15 04:17 PM

He does it for his loafers.

echappist 07-30-15 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by shovelhd (Post 18029117)
Do your Brooks Brothers suits go on sale?

Sworks shoes do go on sale at the end of the season but sizes and colors are limited. Keep in mind that Sworks have a lifetime guarantee.

You should probably describe your shoe size before asking for recommendations.

i don't have a Brooks suit, sorry to disappoint you.

size 43, right foot larger than left

Originally Posted by shovelhd (Post 18029133)
He does it for his loafers.

my Allen Edmonds loafers are "factory seconds" bought on steep discount

tetonrider 07-31-15 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by burger0014 (Post 18028802)
I actually don't like mine. They seemed narrow so I bought half a size larger. Now that they are somewhat broken in I feel like my feet are swimming in them. Size 10 / 43 in everything... 43.5 in Sworks... and they aren't white so maybe that's why I hate them.

sounds like more of a problem with your order than the shoes.

for [MENTION=165838]echappist[/MENTION]...if the SW is too spendy, they do make a pro version that is pretty similar, but i suspect at least part of the issue is getting a "value" (=sale) on whatever item, not the absolute cost.

too bad your feet are not a hair smaller...i could kick you a pair of my older ones with plenty of life left.
[MENTION=196014]shovelhd[/MENTION]'s point is a good one. on a per-hour basis -- and for how important they are -- the cost of good shoes amortizes down to nothing pretty quick.

tetonrider 07-31-15 12:36 AM

[MENTION=196014]shovelhd[/MENTION]....for you!
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Wylde06 07-31-15 05:45 AM

If the wide sworks were wide enough I would get a pair..going to just get a new pair of Sidi's when the bike shop ive started going to more starts carrying them


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