2015 Race Results
07-19-15, 07:50 PM
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Well, I find a lot of cat 3s are like horses, they get spooked by a pack of cyclists. I mean, how often do you hear yelling, complaining about sketchy riders, frantically warning that they are "inside" or "on your right"? At that one crit-like circuit race (can't remember the name), one guy was yelling like mad and tattling to an official about a so-called sketchy rider. The rider wasn't really that bad. I didn't even notice. At watsonville one rider called the race "sketchy" on Strava. I thought it was perfectly fine. Today a rider keeps yelling at me "on your right!" He was behind and just wanted to pass. I've been lightly touched when a riderthinks I'm invading his space. Not a shove, and I dont get bent out of shape. So I understand if the officials can't just believe 1 or 2 random cat 3s. Still, this was the worst thing I've seen in my 80 or so races. An outright shove. Dangerous and beyond stupid. One guy I asked after the race - I asked if he saw the shove and he asks if it was the kid in green (I guess he was young, like college maybe). He didn't even see the incident, he just noted that the guy was riding like a dick all day.
07-19-15, 08:28 PM
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I'm on my phone reading this, else I'd type more: wow, great racing by lots of folks!! Well done!!
07-19-15, 08:42 PM
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do you think that your ability to hit the #s has been developed at the expense of race craft?
07-19-15, 08:49 PM
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South Chicago Bike Race Cat 4
Finished somewhere around 8th out of around 50, not sure I left straight away as it was over 100 degrees and I had to ride 15 miles home and stay rested for today's race. Course was fairly lame, 2 straightaways 0.5 miles each with 2 u turns. Back stretch had a big head wind which made any break difficult. Worked to stay up front and then get swarmed as no one wanted to pull, but went into the last turn third wheel and the guy in front of me braked harder than I expected. Touched wheels a couple times and then didn't have the jump from there to do much damage in the field sprint. Took video but it was so hot my battery drained before the race ended.
Willow Springs Road Race - Illinois Road Championships Cat 4
4 mile course with a 100 foot climb to the finish, 12 times up the hill. Again difficult for a break to form as there was too much recovery time after the hill that led into a downhill and a mile straight that had the centerline rule in place, making it very narrow for moving up in the pack. A 2 man break went for 1 lap. I chased a 3 man break up the hill with 1 lap to go but my quad started to cramp (near 100 again today) so I let up along with other riders and drifted back to the front. Probably made a mistake from there as I got swarmed attempting to not pull at the front as no one else would pull either. This is the problem with zero team organization in these cat 4 races. Tried to move up best I could on the centerline road which led into the hill to the finish. Got boxed in and had nearly 3 wrecks in front of me leading into and up the hill sprint to the finish. Found some space and finally made it to the line around 10th in a full field of around 75.
Really hard to execute any strategy riding without a team in a race where no one else is organizing any moves either.
Finished somewhere around 8th out of around 50, not sure I left straight away as it was over 100 degrees and I had to ride 15 miles home and stay rested for today's race. Course was fairly lame, 2 straightaways 0.5 miles each with 2 u turns. Back stretch had a big head wind which made any break difficult. Worked to stay up front and then get swarmed as no one wanted to pull, but went into the last turn third wheel and the guy in front of me braked harder than I expected. Touched wheels a couple times and then didn't have the jump from there to do much damage in the field sprint. Took video but it was so hot my battery drained before the race ended.
Willow Springs Road Race - Illinois Road Championships Cat 4
4 mile course with a 100 foot climb to the finish, 12 times up the hill. Again difficult for a break to form as there was too much recovery time after the hill that led into a downhill and a mile straight that had the centerline rule in place, making it very narrow for moving up in the pack. A 2 man break went for 1 lap. I chased a 3 man break up the hill with 1 lap to go but my quad started to cramp (near 100 again today) so I let up along with other riders and drifted back to the front. Probably made a mistake from there as I got swarmed attempting to not pull at the front as no one else would pull either. This is the problem with zero team organization in these cat 4 races. Tried to move up best I could on the centerline road which led into the hill to the finish. Got boxed in and had nearly 3 wrecks in front of me leading into and up the hill sprint to the finish. Found some space and finally made it to the line around 10th in a full field of around 75.
Really hard to execute any strategy riding without a team in a race where no one else is organizing any moves either.
07-19-15, 09:03 PM
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There have been a handful of days of illness, like 3-5 maybe. Anyway, it's only a statement about my obsessiveness more than anything else.
07-20-15, 03:52 AM
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raced yarmouth clamfest p123 yesterday. kind of a classic of boston area racing. no idea where i finished but felt more comfortable in the pack in a 123 race than i have in a long time and definitely felt stronger than when i did this race two years ago. tried really hard to move up on the last lap (there was a break up the road) but it didn't work out and I had nothing left for the finish. really good time and i got a rad t shirt which is all that matters. i love this race.
07-20-15, 04:05 AM
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If a rider is making dangerous moves in a field to advance his position, I'd certainly want to know about it. Having more than one witness and calm, factual manner helps. See the Chief Referee. What happens from there depends on many things. Don't expect an official to hunt the rider down in the parking lot and confront him. He may be questioned at another time.
07-20-15, 05:27 AM
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E-wang race to the bottom. 5 minute AP, 5 w/kg. 15 second sprint, 565w peak, 530w avg. That 15 seconds was at the end of that 5 minutes, and that 5 minutes solo was the fastest lap of the race. Maybe power meters are just pointless?
07-20-15, 05:36 AM
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5 minute flyer, finished 7 seconds behind a solo guy, 7 seconds clear of the field. Caught at the line by one chaser. Guys were just falling apart, it was so outrageously hot. My head still feels like a dried out sponge.
What's next weekend?
... no, probably not doing anything next weekend. Definitely not Mengoni or Freedom Tour. If I did anything it would be the Jam Fund thing, but my wife is swamped with work so more likely I'll just do something with the kids.
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07-20-15, 06:12 AM
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40k TT...
My fit is effed on this bike (haven't had anyone look at it, just kind of guessing) and my leg started to hurt (not my hip like before, but the hamstring..basically everything from the knee to the hip) on the third leg and anything close to sst power hurt so I dialed it way back. That, and my right extension kept rotating outward...
I need to try and remember how I had this bike set up at the beginning of the year. I had two good, although shorter, TT's at the beginning of the season. The last 2 TT's have been painful in ways that bikes shouldn't be.
1:06:46 with low power. I know I can do better..a lot better
My fit is effed on this bike (haven't had anyone look at it, just kind of guessing) and my leg started to hurt (not my hip like before, but the hamstring..basically everything from the knee to the hip) on the third leg and anything close to sst power hurt so I dialed it way back. That, and my right extension kept rotating outward...
I need to try and remember how I had this bike set up at the beginning of the year. I had two good, although shorter, TT's at the beginning of the season. The last 2 TT's have been painful in ways that bikes shouldn't be.
1:06:46 with low power. I know I can do better..a lot better
07-20-15, 06:21 AM
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40k TT...
My fit is effed on this bike (haven't had anyone look at it, just kind of guessing) and my leg started to hurt (not my hip like before, but the hamstring..basically everything from the knee to the hip) on the third leg and anything close to sst power hurt so I dialed it way back. That, and my right extension kept rotating outward...
I need to try and remember how I had this bike set up at the beginning of the year. I had two good, although shorter, TT's at the beginning of the season. The last 2 TT's have been painful in ways that bikes shouldn't be.
1:06:46 with low power. I know I can do better..a lot better
My fit is effed on this bike (haven't had anyone look at it, just kind of guessing) and my leg started to hurt (not my hip like before, but the hamstring..basically everything from the knee to the hip) on the third leg and anything close to sst power hurt so I dialed it way back. That, and my right extension kept rotating outward...
I need to try and remember how I had this bike set up at the beginning of the year. I had two good, although shorter, TT's at the beginning of the season. The last 2 TT's have been painful in ways that bikes shouldn't be.
1:06:46 with low power. I know I can do better..a lot better
07-20-15, 06:38 AM
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I honestly don't know what you mean. There are an lot of very strong racers, and a lot of extremely crafty racers as well. I can think of plenty of guys with similar numbers to yours, and plenty of guys who are able to manage wind/features/efforts in such a way as to hang with them. Maybe that's not what you are even talking about though?
07-20-15, 06:54 AM
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One would really also need define 'more crashes,' as there can always be more or less and there already do seem to be a veritable ****-ton.
07-20-15, 06:54 AM
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If ygduf is talking about how guys can podium with pathetic numbers, all I can say is, CDR's last lap yesterday (in a pack chasing and catching the break) was over 29 mph, good for 4th all time on the Strava leaderboard. Finish that with an 1100w jump and Bob's your uncle. Despite the barely-Z5 power, my last 2 laps (different race) were 27 mph solo, which was good enough to stay away on a windy hilly course at the end of an attacky super hot race.
07-20-15, 07:00 AM
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uh which is the left side? East?
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I reckon his point is that when someone like CDR throws up an AP around 125 a 40 mph last lap and a 50 mph sprint to win the race he has trouble wrapping his head around how everyone is crashing all over the place. In fairness they frequently are.
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I reckon his point is that when someone like CDR throws up an AP around 125 a 40 mph last lap and a 50 mph sprint to win the race he has trouble wrapping his head around how everyone is crashing all over the place. In fairness they frequently are.
07-20-15, 07:18 AM
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It's not rocket surgery. You hang in a decently large and charging pack and you save a ton of energy. If you can do that and have a sprint you're not going to do badly in most crits. The 45min before I went OTF my avg power was 219W. Granted the first 45min we avg'd 24.5 and the last 15min 26.5, but still. RE sprint speed, the last minute or so I realized they were coming up on us way faster than I expected, so the last 30 seconds I made a last ditch effort to keep us ahead and was pulling at 30mph on a mild false flat with a mild headwind, and we got passed by guys (like cdr) who were going a lot, lot faster. Having a sprint and using your head will take you far.
07-20-15, 07:30 AM
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In fairness 'most crits' refers to cat 3 and below as that tactic begins to fall pretty flat in masters crits (which are much more tactical) and is largely useless in 1,2 crits where if you can't get to the front with a few laps to go you're done.