Dan, I agree. The Commuter does not need to be over built. But that is what people want. All my bikes have had vertical dropouts. The 2 huffys I have had feel into the group of poorly alined frames. As a matter of fact I did check the Denali's frame. And find it to be dead on alinged. Maybe I just lucked out and got a good one. I even check the rear end to see if the axle (drop outs) where alined and there where just 2mm off. So I fix that. only one drop out (rightside) was bent in at the bottom. Now there are dead on. Did this the first day. Sorry I forgot to post that fix. But most people would not know how the check this, let a lone fix it.

Yesterday I got the 6 year old a new bike so today I took him out for a ride. Got him a 18" BMX style bike. Started teaching him the rules of the road. He did 3 miles with me at about 10 mph. Not to bad for a 6 year old.