well, thats the question, isn't it?

for example, my Jan de Reus is a 1990 bike, wears Croce D'Aune gruppo and
I consider it to be classic.
My Serotta is a 1989 model, campy ergo 8 speed and I consider it maybe KOF but not classic or vintage.
My RIH is a 1974 model and I consider it both classic and vintage.
a subtle distinction, no?

We definitely play faster and looser than Classic Rendezvous, but thats a good thing (imho atmo).
For me I guess classic is in the details, and vintage is in the date.

here's a poser: can a bike be vintage and NOT classic?

Marty