yeah, i tried on a civilian and it fit right. i'll try to find someone with a deluxe when i'm in philly with bike people over the holidays. whatever i get will be loaded with customs: double outside pockets, compression straps, messenger pad, pen slots, et cetera.

i might just get the deluxe and use the compression straps. i've already got the medium timbuk2, so why have two bags that are almost the same size?