I'm having some issues with a couple of BB's for different reasons and I was wondering what others experiences have been.

I've tried sheldonbrown.com already but it didn't answer the problem.

Firstly the FSA BB. I was led to believe that FSA BB's use a Shimano BB tool. It looks like it would fit but when I went to remove it my BB tool wouldn't go all the way onto the spindle. There seems to be some bands on the spindle that prevent the tool sliding on. Does anyone have any experience with this. What am I missing?

Regarding the Token BB. My Shimano BB tool works no trouble but the left side (non drive) cup is EXTRODINARILY difficult to screw in or out. I was thinking that its the wrong thread and went to sheldonbrown.com for info but according to that info there is only one option that would be too tight and I wouldn't get it on as far as I did. It screwed on half way without a problem.

Can anyone shed any light on my problems?

Thanks, Anthony