I find this a very interesting study in human thought. On the one hand there are a few who seem to argue that it's no big deal, however, most seem put off by this. If the logic offered, or assumed by reading between the lines, would hold true across situations, then it would seem that very few folks on this forum have any sexual relations with others. (Notice how I haven't answered the OP's questions?) I don't know if I would buy them or not, but the thread sure has caused me to wonder about it.