Gonzo Bob, I started this morning and got a couple of miles into it and came back home. The main roads and secondary roads are fine but the back roads stink! I live in New Hope and go threw Robbinsdale, Crystal, Golden Valley and then into Minneapolis. Minneapolis was fine but all of the suburbs were awful. I think they went a little crazy on the salt/sand (brown sugar), it was like going through deep mud. This was a first for me, I've never turned back (I've been riding year around for over 22 years), now I'm feeling bad about it. I guess I'm going to have to get creative... hmmm, maybe part of it was psychological.