I got these 180s running gloves last year. I love them because they aren't bulky and work in a wide range of temps, from 0F to 45F. the protective overmitt can be tucked away. They are just the right amount of warmth for commuting and active sports. They changed the palm material for this year, so don't know how it affects grip and warmth. Worth checking out though, and can be found at Dick's Sporting Goods and Sports Authority...