[QUOTE=MichaelW]for purpose-built commuter bikes, Thorn in the UK (at sjscycles.com) make some interesting models, including the Raven, which uses a Rohloff hub.
I want a THORN!
I am lusting after a thorn bike for commuting, touring and expedition riding....
My Giant X800,has served me well for the best part of 7 years, but is begining to show its age and the raviges of Salted winter roads.
I reckon for £300 it has paid for itself, several times over, so it owes me nothing, and man those Thorns are such Sweet bikes........