Originally Posted by Plainsman
when you say the bars look too "up," I'm guessing you mean the angle they are rotated, and not the stem height, is this correct. I just put them there because that's what the Zinn book suggested (end of drops pointing to rear brake). However, if this is not standard please let me know.
Yes, I meant rotation. Long ago the standard was with the drops parallel to the ground. Don't get hung up on it though, go with what is comfortable and fits.
As for flip it...that was in reference to the stem height, or rather the positive nature of the rise. Do a search on "flip-it" and you will see what I mean.