Yes I understand that, because the cells are not absorbing glucose so the liver is signalled to increase glucose production, the same thing happen in DM1 as well. The body thinks it is starving so it asks for more energy.

The concept I am having trouble with understanding is DM2 causing obesity, I do not doubt the people that say this is so, but there is something in my own personal bias that is not letting be accept this. Of course there is more than one condition that can cause DM2, and I think this is where I need to look in order to better understand this.