I was referring to the IRO Bfssfg frame that can be had for 150.00. It is a great deal, but there is a wait of a couple of months until you will get the frame from IRO. Last I heard they will be shipped in June. If you don't want one, or do not like the colors availabe to you (black, blue, green), then the Frame is not the kind of deal that would work out for you. All leading up to why people buy and convert old bikes instead of buying a new frame and building it up.