Originally Posted by HWS
Are we discussing bicycle riding, or trying to launch a space shuttle?
this is BikeForums, we discuss bicycles.
If you are interested in discussing the launch of space vehicles (manned and unmanned) there is a really good one going on at
http://www.idb.org/ in the section pertaining to "The Farmer Astronaut", it's a really good read, though you have to create an account to access it.