Thanks for the info machka...I get hot foot during longer rides at times, I will be moving my cleats back before I go to sleep tonight, will see how it works this weekend.

Regarding cleats in general...its always a kick to see my kids ride with out cleats seems to me that they have slime under their feet, but once they clip in its all business and we are riding. I usually start the kids off with those half spd pedals the kind with a cleat on one side and a platform on the other. With my youngest she rode with egg beaters at age 9 took about 30 seconds to figure it out.