Originally Posted by Bekologist

the "trust but verify" statement, conjured up to explain America's failure to follow disarmament treaties during the cold war, is some of the most worthless, empty, pedantic armchair riding advice I've seen from helmet head.

IF he rode a fair bit, he'd know that 'verifying' a driver has seen you is impossible. I can be riding down the MIDDLE of the travel lane, as a steady stream of traffic approaches me in the opposite lane. AT night- or during the day. Lots of intersections, driveways, etc.

VERIFYING they've noticed me as a bicyclist? plueaze, what artifice....

trust but verify is pithy, worthless witicism; armchair advice about riding.

It doesn't happen, you don't get to 'verify' anything. You can see a car stopped at an intersection, and be able to verify NOTHING, even while riding smack dab in the middle of the lane. Are they going to pull out? yes? no?

worthless advice. A pathetic masquerade of the armchair cyclist.

Now, i'm out taking the lane, riding assertively and defensively, more than most (and certainly more than those like HH that drive more than half their paltry 6 mile commutes) signalling my intent "I'm pulling thru this intersection" by signalling straight aheads, etc, watching cars for signs of pulling out, but "verify?"

i'll leave that to armchair games played by the sophist about his "bicycling" technique.