Try OCW's ride around the Bear ride... it is supposed to be a killer !

if ya wanna roll down to OC this Saturday, my bike club is doing a Century ride... they have a 100, 75, 64, 50, 44, 25 mile rides planned... unsupported, never too hilly... a good fun ride

http://www.ocrebels.com

unfortunately, I got roped into flying to AZ to see the in-laws... ugh

jeff