The thread was deleted or locked. Either way the mods over there didn't like all the bashing. There have been a few people thinking they were clever enough to post fake Ti grim bike checks it's ammusing. That's the joy of bikeguide. Kid's that spend every penny on their bike but yet hate on the kids whose parents help them do so. Priceless.

One of my good friends has an Eastern hub...he's rough as hell on it and doesn't take care of his bike and it still runs smooth. The rim is another story.