Apparrently there is no room in this forum for reasoned discussion, a middle ground, or reasonable disagreement. It seems apparent to me that unless someone joins one of the "camps" here through and through, one will be attacked on both flanks.
The silly thing is-half the time i think you guys are saying the same damn thing and you spend pages arguing over nothing other than your dislike of someone else. You people remind me of the "Peoples Front" group in the movie "Life of Brian."
I am going to return to the S & F forum where at least people can agree that drinking beer is fun.