Does that Rob Roy seriously have an Alfine crank? I can't even get that **** straight from Shimano. What's the deal SF kids?!

Also, the Karate Monkey is hardly a cross bike...I have my Waterford to thank for that.

The main difference between the WTB dirt drops and cross bars is the large sweep and very short drop. They are good for climbing (when in the drops), but it sucks to have to always be on the hoods during descents and twisty sections. The flat part of the bar is almost useless considering I need to have access to the brakes almost all the time.