Originally Posted by randya

If what is shown in those videos is your idea of a 'pleasant cycling environment', then you and John and Bruce are also right that cycling will NEVER be practiced by more than a miniscule percentage of the American population. If you want to get more people on bikes - which is 'advocacy' in my book - this model will absolutely NEVER WORK. I don't think you guys have even half a clue how a 99% majority of the US population would react when asked whether they would want to bike on a road like that - even with proper training.

I, for example, don't want to have to (1) ride a light-weight road bike, (2) dress in biker kit, (3) pedal 15 to 20 mph, (4) breath the exhaust, and (5) constantly monitor for passing 45 mph motor vehicles, and I'm a cyclist with 45 years of experience who is capable of riding in these situations when necessary.