I agree. It's too bad your inability to write a thoughtful post without personal attacks made this forum necessary.

Seriously, this forum could end up being a very good thing. The problem was not that VC was discussed, it was that a few posters got the vapors whenever HH posted something, and then dragged the thread down. VC topics are still discussed in A&S, but with more civility. If the heckler's veto crowd play their games, and the thread deteriorates into an argument we've had a thousand times, the thread will be moved here.

This subforum could be a very good thing. People who want to argue can do so in the A&S main forum. People who just want to throw junior-high-level insults can do so here.

This subforum should probably be retitled "The Doghouse." My sense is that is how it will operate in practice.