I think the operative word here is "budget." Yes, the OCR bikes are the best budget bikes, I won't argue with that, but budget usually means below the low-end. They're the best budget road bikes simply because no one makes road bikes that are that cheap. The OCR1 is probably the only ike in its price range with 105. That just means it's a well-specced budget bike... I still wouldn't recommend riding it for rides of any moderate distance. The other thing, of course, is that these bikes only come in three sizes, and you can't easily swap out the stem. They are three-sizes-fit-all and they fit no one.