Originally Posted by somnambulant
Hmm.. I didn't know that.
Yeah, I think the factory that maks them for Fuji is Kinesis and I think that the guy who owns the brand rights to Motobecane/Windsor/Bottechia/Dawes in the United States purchases the specs for the frame from Kinesis and they make them for him. They were not actually branded as Fujis but they are the same frames.
I don't know who makes the carbon fibre frames for Bikesdirect either but they are also re-branded bikes, mostly Steve Bauer frames that sell for 2500$USD for the frame alone. It is really interesting what is going on now in the carbon fibre market....that stuff is getting
cheap. Anyone with enough orders can buy the frame, as can be attested to by the guys in the road forum that got a sweet CF frame/fork for under 600$USD shipped. There is another one now too, this time for a Leader frame and it looks like it might be under 500$USD. Tempting.