Ahhhh...Florida (I was born in Miami) and for a bike it was cool in that it was indeed VERY flat...alas no I live in Washington State. Mind you I love my new home but flat it is not. Somedays it seems like everything is uphill no matter where you go.

I guess I should be clear...when I said I don't ride offroad much anymore. I still like to ride offroad (we have some wonderful singletrack right at the edge of town) but I primarily want to commute to school. Also, I will probably be moving north to Vancouver BC in the coming months so it need to be a decent urban assault bike. Also. I would be lying if I said the trails at Northshore won't get the occasional visit. I guess I could always have two project bikes.

I have been really considering a decent road frame. Are there any older frames that would be similar to cyclocross frames (basically burly road frames)?