Thanks for all the replies! Sounds like I have to go out and test ride a bunch o' bikes.
Gee, life is rough sometimes. Given what I've been dealing with lately, I'm think I can handle the challenge
Stem... oh yeah, that reminds me that I need to swap out the stem on my Kaitai. Got a 60mm, 10 degree on it now and I'm going to give a 60mm, 25 degree stem a try. My elbows are just a little too straight when I ride. Can't see where raising the bar up a bit can hurt.