Originally Posted by raven1
I am considering the Serotta Fierte, a stock frame that lists for a mere $1895 (hint, hint for those who have said they can't afford Ti). It comes in both a Ti seatstay model or a carbon seatstay model. Somehow I need to find a LBS that has both in stock and in my size so I can compare.
http://www.serotta.com/pages/fierte_Ti.html
Sadly, the current model Fierte can only be bought with carbon seatstays (according to my dealer). You may be able to find an old model (prior to 2006) with the full Ti. Beautiful riding and handling bike (I have one) but I'd admit that it is a little noodly, and I'm pretty light. It is budget Ti, after all, no tube butting or anything.