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Old 04-15-07 | 05:36 PM
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VC vs. Hurst's "Art of urban cycling"

WHO?

This thread is for anyone who knows and has practiced advanced vehicular cycling (basically, the style/practice/methods/techniques/philosophy espoused in John Forester's Effective Cycling, John Franklin's Cyclecraft, and John S. Allen's Streetsmarts) and has read Robert Hurst's book, The Art of Urban Cycling (or the 2nd edition, The Art of Cycling).

WHAT?

The topic of this thread is to compare the style/practice/methods/techniques/philosophy of vehicular cycling to both vehicular cycling as described in Hurst's book, and to the style/practice/methods/techniques/philosophy that he advocates.

To kick-off the discussion, here are some questions:
  1. Is Hurt's depiction of vehicular cycling in his book fair and accurate, as compared to how you understand vc? Based on on how he writes about vc, do you believe Hurst has a good understanding of vc? Please explain.
  2. Compare Hurst's "Art" (the style/practice/methods/techniques/philosophy that he advocates in his book) to VC. Are they basically the same? Substantially different? Please explain.
  3. Compare and contrast (as best as you can based on your knowledge/understanding of each) the different lane positioning approaches:
    1. Forester's destination and speed positioning principles/rules; positioning in order to maximize conspicuity and predictability.
    2. Franklin's "primary" and "secondary" riding positions.
    3. Hurst's positioning to maximize buffer space and vision.
  4. Do vigilance and responsibility play significantly different roles and/or have significantly different priorities in Hurst's philosophy than they do in VC? Please explain.
  5. Does "following the rules" play a significantly different role and/or have a significantly different priority in Hurst's philosophy than it does in VC? Please explain.
WHY?

The reason I'm starting this thread is because I believe Hurst's book is valuable and influential (and I strongly recommend it), but I think it has some problems in certain areas. I believe these problems are significant and are related to his depiction of VC (which I believe to be inaccurate) and some of the differences between VC and what he recommends. I think comparing Hurst's riding philsophy to the VC philosophy is a valuable exercise as part of forming, evaluating and refining one's own riding philosophy.

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