Jim, I purpose not to do the bonus neighborhood climb but head down the 150 to Casitas
Man, that neighborhood was tough with my cramped legs last time !!!!
We definitely will need food. I found out last time going without hard food was a bad idea ! We can stop around the summit on the 150 or at Castias ? I know Bill stated he would rather have some time to digest before the two Casitas Pass climbs. To me it doesn't matter as long as we get to eat.
Additionally, I plan to ride from home in Westlake Village to an intercept location. I will get with you on a meet time/place. I can look at my Garmin data from last time and see what the time in route was at any particular spot.