I guess, John, that you feel the need to be condescending toward those of us who question certain provisions in what you define as VC. This kind of communication, in Transactional Analysis terms, is a "crossed communication." Usually, in a discussion within a community like we have here, we try to talk "adult to adult." But when the discussion comes back from the VC people, it is "parent to child." If we continue to discuss adult-adult, then you start calling us names. When you (plural senser of the "you") come in, and some others I could easily name, except they don't go by their own names, with this VC dictitorial approach ("My way or the highway...") toward others who disagree with you, you definately turn people off. And these are the very people who take the time to come to this A&S forum because we are excited about bicycling. If you are willing to make enemies here, and this response above is one which will not make anyone a friend, then what are you really offering to the bicycling community? I will be explaining more of my thoughts on the term "VC," and the connotations I have from these forums, in this thread:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=297027&page=2
John