Originally Posted by legot73

The Jake the Snake is a racing frame made from lighter weight tubing. The Jake is made from heavier tubing and has rack/fender mounts, and a more slack geometry. You won't fit bigger thant 28mm tires under fenders on the Jake, and no more than 32 without fenders. I might be able to squeeze my 35mm Nokians under the fork, but not the rear, and certainly not with fenders. If you want bigger tires AND drop bars, check out the Surly Cross-check.

I love my Jake and ride it whenever there's no ice/salt on the roads. Mine takes a beating on rough pavement, and has stayed true and trouble-free. I strongly recommend it.