Originally Posted by chipcom
Yes, shared ignorance is a worthy goal.

Nothing ignorant about it. Most of us owned bicycles as children and rode them for both transportation and pleasure. All the while, some of us were waiting for the 16th birthday so we could drive cars as well. Now that I'm (well) over 16, I don't ride just because I want to get somewhere- I ride when I want to ride, which is pretty much every day. But I understand that it's for fun, for when I don't have anywhere to go and all day to get there. My car is not a cage- I can enter it and leave it at will, and the fact that it insulates me from the environment, provides heat, cooling and music while getting me from point A to point B more quickly than a bike is a good thing. That's why there are more adults driving to work than riding.
I don't do CM. I don't have any "one less car" stickers on my bike. I'm not a vegan. I don't hold hemp in any higher regard than any other fabric, obsess over where my tennis shoes were made or engage in any of the other silly behavior that some cyclists seem to think is kewl. I get on my toy and have a good time riding it. It's a damn bicycle, not a conservationist's fashion statement.
Oh... I'm not a carbon/lycra/unobtanium roadie, either. I'm just a guy who owns a few bicycles.