Originally Posted by old and new
THe bike that's in the photo is SMALL, you must do better than that, that bike is dinky, I don't care WHAT the top-tube is!
Yes, it's small, but it's compact geometry (marketed as a hybrid, but very similar to a MTB). I plan mixed use for whatever I build up, including some light trail riding, and I know some prefer a slightly smaller frame for off road use. I know, this frame is more than slightly smaller for me.