I want to thank the first 2 replies to the post but the last one i take much offensive too, I live in Central Texas and it doesnt rain too much around here, not enough to get as muddy as it was. Weekend Warrior? I THINK NOT! I mainly ride road bikes, mountain biking is just something i like to go out and have fun with. When you ride road, you dint get mud on the chain...so this is the first time something like this has happend, just want to make sure it was cleaning it right. If you get your jollies calling people Wuss's on the forums, you need to take it else where...i dont have time for your punk ass...but thanks for the tires