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Originally Posted by acroy
I just resent that most plans attempting to help the poor require me to help pay for it....
Originally Posted by TimJ
Of course you do. You're small-minded and have no regard for the maintenence of soceity, don't understand how a person better off, 100 miles away, benefits you in the least.
I don't think that's quite what acroy meant. I too resent being forced at gunpoint to pay for things I might not agree with. Yes, gunpoint. If you don't pay your taxes, men with guns will come and make you. Ask Al Capone about that one. Anyway, I'd like to choose for myself which charities get my donations. If there is something that I don't agree with, but the government gives it my tax money, it's irritating to no end. I don't mind donating money or time to charity, but I resent being REQUIRED to. That's what acroy was getting at, I think.

In the OP story, yes, it is completely those peoples' faults that they are in that situation. They budget fuel last as "whatever's leftover goes to gas and stuff". If gas shoots up unexpectedly, then sure they have a valid gripe, but everyone's known that gas is going up and up. If either one of those women have car problems, they are screwed. The lady who is making 7 or 8 bucks an hour and driving 68 miles one way is the craziest one. She could make that much anywhere within walking distance, yet she would have much more money on hand. No, it's not all because she isn't driving 140 miles every day, although that would help a lot, it's because she could work 2 more hours every day instead of sitting in the car. Just some rough math here:
Maybe she fills the car every 3 days, which would give her around 420 mi. to a tank (not unreasonable if you mostly do highway) @ somewhere close to $35 or $40 per tank, so about $80 per week in just gas.
2 more hours per week @ $8 per hour is $80 per week pre-tax. (assuming a 5 day work week) So if she could park the car and pick up those extra 2 hours, that's maybe $120 per week in her pocket after taxes and misc. driving for other stuff (or don't park the car, you don't use much gas driving a mile or so every day). That's $6200 per year. In her pocket. I don't know about you, but I sure wouldn't mind an extra $6200 per year after taxes.
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