Originally Posted by Prosody
Saw this comment near the beginning of the tread. I thought this comment revealed an interesting attitude on the part of a cyclist about cycling. In my mind, the only way to fully eliminate harassment from other road users is to not have other road users on or near any roads.
Your reading a bit too much into it. But maybe not too much.
The point i was making is that only fully separated facilities would eliminate harrassment from motorists. Take the motorists off the road or the cyclists - that's a different arguement and not one I was trying to make one way or the other.
But when I say maybe not too much - I mean I don't think it is realistic (although it would be nice) if all roads were closed to motor vehicles. I do however think it is possible in some denser urban areas.
I also do not think it is realistic or possible for a fully separate non-motorist infrastructure either. I do think that some folks in their desire to push for one may make severe compromises to try to achieve such, which poses a great danger to cyclists rights and/or safety
Al