You may be right, but I don't perceive what they do on these midnight rides as riding to ride, I look at these events as a political statement against the "establishment". I've seen where these threads go on the road forum and it's never pretty, there is always an attitude. There posts are always filled with rants against cars, SUV's and the money people have and spend, and generally how much fun they have pissing people off. When I ride, I'm not worried about what political persuasion someone is, only if they keep there line and if I can keep up with them.

Sorry if I jumped the gun on them, but if all there angst was caused by my little remark...oh well.