Great info guys, thanks. I am going to test-ride it sometime this week, it would only be the frame that I am getting, I would be trading my 57cm Razesa with SLX tubing for this bike. The Razesa is great but is a bit snug so I figure it is a fair trade. I am however changing a couple of things on the Razesa to see if I can get a better fit so it may be easier to keep that bike if it works out for me. I'll see if he has a serial number, thanks.