Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
Most of Spain, UK and Italy is crap for cycling. Most of France is OK for cycling, but nowhere top-10 material. By the way, I was in both Rome and Milan, and really don't see how either is any good for cycling, at all? And I am half-italian to boot, so I'd have some partiality in the matter. Rome and Milan are congested like a rinoceros rectum after over-eating on
gummy-bears.
I think all these countries are actually quite good for cycling, if only because the general driving population shows cyclists respect and gives them space (esp. in France). Talking about rural riding here.
Where is top 10 material then?
In regards to urban cycling, between Rome and Milan I've only ridden in Milan and it was OK: flat, smallish, and with a growing fixed gear scene. Mind the tram rails and cobblestones though.