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Old 06-25-07 | 05:08 PM
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Bikes: 2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity

Originally Posted by sdime
I just learned how damaging to the environment water bottles are. It's so bad that so governments are banning 'em. Has anyone found an alternative for the bottle cage? Something like aluminum or stainless steel, maybe.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007...rancisco_m.php

Those plastic bags from grocery stores are pretty bad too. I'll have to ask for paper from now on.
It's scary how ill-informed you are. Bicycle water bottles are not single use applications. I get several years out of my bottles and when they're too messed up for use on the bike I reuse them in other applications on a per bottle basis.

As for Paper bags vs Plastic
Compared to paper grocery bags, plastic grocery bags consume 40 percent less energy, generate 80 percent less solid waste, produce 70 percent fewer atmospheric emissions, and release up to 94 percent fewer waterborne wastes.

If you REALLY want to make an impact you can do what we do in my household.

We do a larger portion of our shopping at Save-A-Lot they actually CHARGE for bags there, but many of the item displays are done in their shipping boxes which makes them available to the consumer for free as well the stockers actually bring the boxes up to the front of the building near the check out lines where the consumer is also allowed to rummage to find an appropriate size box. The boxes that we've used have all been recycled.

In addition, we also bring our own cloth bags to the stores and/ or tell the cashier not to bag our items. The few plastic bags that we DO get are reused as garbage can liners and as receptacles for used cat litter.

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