oh, and i wouldn't lace those radially for a million bucks. you could probably do it and be fine, because i've seen a bunch of them done that way, but the holes are really close to the edge of the flange, and the flange tapers right after the holes, so there's much less flange there. i also heard that it voids shimano's warranty for those hubs.

phils are much safer to radially lace because the flanges are so damn thick.