Thanks for the replies guys. The guys at the bike shop didnt do any measurements on me. They sorta ploped me on one of their two Etapes and said "how does that feel"? And they sorta eye balled it. I test drove the 59 size.
If you tell me how to measure my insteam and I told you guys would you give me a better idea on what size etape would be good? Being 3 or 4 inches taller than baj32161 that might warrent a 59 size over the 57 size that he tried on. But I guess everyone is different.
Also: Does any online shops sell Etapes via mail?
Ill try that other website thanks!