Yeah, it's unfortunate there are people like who ride and are not somehow, by karma, living in a twilight zone existance of small, hot and stuffy offices and too small compact cars. For me personally, it was partly these experiences that finally fried me from riding for so long. And that was after years of having the "advantage" of being pretty well-off in the cycling industry. FWIW...the worst attitude I ever came upon in my years....Alexi Grewal. The difference between him and his brother is night and day.